John & Jackie interview Jessica Fern, a psychotherapist, public speaker, and expert on trauma and relationships. Jessica talks about her book, Polysecure, which is designed to help individuals, couples, and people in multi-partner relationships move beyond their reactive patterns, cultural conditioning, insecure attachment styles, and past traumas, while embracing new possibilities in life and love. They talk about different relationship styles for different people and relationships and provide practical tips for being more open and vulnerable in relationships. Overall, this episode is a valuable resource for anyone interested in better understanding themselves and their attachment styles, regardless of their relationship model.